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written by Chris on 2006-10-23 19:57:41

Did you hear whit Willie Waddle said at just after 9 minutes? Shocking.

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written by danbhoy on 2006-10-23 22:48:49

Rangers Wifebeaters Supporters Club! Aye ready tae slap their wives when they get beat. Some things never change.

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written by Dubai Bhoy on 2006-10-23 23:01:39

Fantastic !! Brought back some great memories of times gone by. What was that song early on ? "8-in-a-row" I think it was. Don`t suppose we`ll ever hear that one again. Great stuff though.

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written by New Jersey on 2006-10-24 03:11:39

I hope some of the arrests were for offences against fashion.

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written by Johnnyquest on 2006-10-24 10:23:52

Can't recall seing this when it was first shown,but,if ever a programme highlighted the fundamental difference between the two clubs,this is it.To hear the general manager talk,in such a lighthearted fashion of wife beating,and,how he hoped the traditions would not change,while,our own boss spoke of how he encountered no discrimination at Celtic park,really did drive home what i suppose we already knew,one club driven by intolerance,another,with no such baggage.

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written by King Billy in Motherwell (The on 2006-10-24 10:31:17

well after watching this,then i hope every fenian knows that they are only equal to paki's as both of them are immigrants and don't belong in Scotland. And its about time they went back to there slums in parkheed, Forgie and Jervie.

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written by Lachie Mor on 2006-10-24 11:06:46

King Billy in Motherwell

Says it all really - by the way did you enjoy the goals.

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written by Steve Beko on 2006-10-24 11:26:48

King Billy, just goes to show the evil your club is capable. Go and try and read a book.

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written by Dannybhoy7 on 2006-10-25 12:10:44

This wasn't even biased towards celtic yet it shows how bigoted rangers really are. Great videos you have on here, would you know how i could get them so i can out them on dvd for my old dad
cheers
Hail Hail

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written by King Billy in Motherwell (The on 2006-10-24 14:08:38

The goals were ok lachie mor (thanks for asking) but not nearly as good as the 2 goals that Scott McDonald scored against yous for Rangers to win the League. And steve beko i think you must be deaf & dumb if you don't hear the evil that comes out of celtic fans mouths. I would like to see you walk into kellys bar wearing a gers top then we would see and hear how evil yous really are.

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written by bigjim port glasgow on 2006-10-24 15:25:05

brought back alot of memories liked the bits with big Jock
Hail Hail

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written by King Billy in Motherwell (The on 2006-10-24 18:20:24

The only reason celtic fans never beat there wifes is because have you seen the size of the bastards. They are huge mean looking muther fuckers wae bigger baws that there husbands, who are actully there brothers because there all inbreeds.

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written by timmalloy on 2006-10-24 19:33:31

I hope I'm not the only one that finds King Billy hilarious. What a small minded bigot. if you were to imagine a charictature hun,he would be it. yer grammars minging, your arguements are immature and the only reason he has to resort to petty insults is because he knows hes wrong,that he is the scum here. grow up an d get a life, bit of education wouldnt go amiss.

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written by boozebhoy on 2006-10-24 21:53:23

King Billy, that would be "their wifes" not "there wifes".

Incidently did you notice the school inspectorate's glowing report of a certain school today?

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written by Neutral Observer on 2006-10-25 01:10:49

Cliff Hanley appears to be far too one sided in his views to be considered as an unbiased observer in his evaluation of Glasgow society. Tell me this, Mr Hanley... if Rangers Football Club and their supporters are such evil and twisted anti-catholic bigots, as you insist, then why did they hold a rememberance mass for the Ibrox disaster victims in a Roman Catholic Cathedral??? Chew on that one.

Judging by Hanley's mouth-foaming anti-Rangers rant, I'd suggest that it is him who is the bigot.

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written by edmontoncelt on 2006-10-25 07:35:12

Great video ,the year I started officially following the tic going to Parkhead with the brothers,before I could only go up to Ibrox for a lifty or the last 20s as thats where we lived.Waddell's comments throughout are an offence to any sane persons ears,Hope was a visionary I will give him that he put the money from a properly run pools office to good use I still remember the parents and friends having there nights out in the Rangers club as it was the place seemingly ,but all the money he made them they still had to sell the club to a guy who's first choice was Ayr Utd remember and at a knock down price.Also to neutral observer RFC did not hold a requiem mass at the RC cathedral that was actually put on as a a sign of genuine Christian sorrow and rememberance toward the dead by the Catholic heirarchy it was their decision and not all of the establishment "could make it"!Chew on that one and if you chew long enough you may come up with a neutral answer.

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written by seamus1960 on 2006-10-25 08:25:38

King Billy seems like a really nice guy.

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written by Rugby Rebel on 2006-10-25 12:47:20

R*ng*rs in Barcelona Celtic in Seville. Says it all. King Billy = jerk.

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written by Lachie Mor on 2006-10-25 13:27:04

Boozebhoy

Actually it should be 'their wives'.

Retired Teachers CFC

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written by square go KB on 2006-10-25 14:46:19

Very intellectual maybe he could help me with my quantum mechanics phd

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written by Angela, Glasgow on 2006-10-25 18:09:25

To King Billy, Motherwell, what a total tosspot you are, just shows that what is said in the film from 1974 is inbred in you, that in the year 2006 you still think the way you do. I was born and bred in Glasgow, so how does that make me an immigrant. I am Scottish, but have the sense to support Celtic, and yes i'm a Roman Catholic and proud of it. I also had an uncle who was a Grand Master in the Orange Lodge, but i don't hate my cousins who are all Protestants and support Rangers, but what i do hate are people like yourself who have been brought up to hate Roman Catholics. You obviously have been brought up in a hate filled environment and the only way you know how to deal with it is to slander people you don't even know because they are Roman Catholics. Grow up as its people like you that give the people of Scotland a bad name.

HAIL HAIL

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written by Neutral Observer on 2006-10-25 22:05:25

Thanks for the response edmoncelt. appreciated greatly, even though my point of relevancy has escaped your notice, (or perhaps you just failed to see it through your veil of bitterness??). but i'll entertain you all the same. so, can i ask you where you sourced this information you are touting as fact from?(- not that i'm disputing your sources, of course, as it is not relevent to my initial point and I am digressing somewhat), ...however, i am only going by what was documented on the above video and I only took my information from the programme makers and analysists alike, and they insist that these alleged ANTI-CATHOLIC BIGOTS associated with RFC attended a CATHOLIC CATHEDRAL to join in with their Christian Catholic counterparts in remembering the victims of the Ibrox disaster.
So, you see, the point is, irrespective of who organised the mass or not, half (if not more?) of the folk that turned out at the RC based sermon were, in fact, the same guys that you and yours have been maligning throughout this discourse.
PS I put the key words in capitals to help spell it out for your feeble intellect. As I said, chew on it.... do not attempt to swallow it whole. Regards, an absolute Neutral Observer.

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written by Fidelista on 2006-10-25 22:24:14

Any way this vid could be downloaded and burned to dvd or is it too low quality?

Waddell = Ricky Fulton :-)

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written by seamus1960 on 2006-10-26 13:50:44

Neutral Observer, you seem to be getting yourself all hot and bothered for someone so neutral. Chill.
Have you any view on King Billy's contribution?

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written by Tam the Bam on 2006-10-26 19:54:35

King Billy, are you staying at a convent tonight?
Neutral Observer, your eloquence is overpowering and your use of the capital letter is beyond compare but as we say in the land of sausages- "Darf Ihre nächste Sheiße ein Igel sein!"

Hail! Hail! (not a neutral observer)

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written by Paul Anthony Cassidy on 2006-10-27 01:03:59

Dear Neutral Observer your point on some Rangers employees attending a Catholic Mass is rather pointless one. So them attending a Catholic Mass put in rememberance of their club's fans makes them non-bigots? Indeed they would have looked rather silly if they hadn't. Why don't you address the points put forward by Mr Hanley ie- why have Irish Catholics been labeled Fenians and why did Rangers have a non-Catholic signing policy until 1989? And why is Mr Waddell defending these traditions at the end of the documentary? These are simply questions. Maybe you can give me some answers which are logical, concise and informed. I await with baited breath.

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written by edmontoncelt on 2006-10-27 03:36:23

Ding Ding,Round Two.I take it that is what you are after
"Mr N O".Well sorry to disapoint you after you have basically blew your own cover but what point did I miss.
"if Rangers Football Club and their supporters are such evil and twisted anti-catholic bigots, as you insist, then why did they hold a rememberance mass for the Ibrox disaster victims in a Roman Catholic Cathedral???
I quote again
"why did they hold a rememberance mass"
Copy and paste is such an invaluable tool and speaking of tools I don't know where you are or what age you are but it would do you good to follow follow the words to a song untainted by religious bigotry (yes they do actually exist) "and if you know the history" is a line that we all know well but sadly it shows that neither you or the royal one on here have much use of and before you go on about history I don't mean listening to old folk at funerals telling you that your sister is really your auntie due to a drunken night your grandad had down at the lodge afer slapping yer grandma about because it was his right.
If you want to insult me don't go playing the feeble intelect card as I will be the first to admit that growing up in Ibrox didn't really expose me to the greatest academics in the world but that is kind of obvious if you put those two words in the same sentence, we were happy with our lot, good Catholic schools only drawback was the non denominational schools being within a brick throws distance.
Not one person on here at a quick glance has mentioned ANTI CATHOLIC BIGOTS apart from yourself or mentioned that Hanley was totally right in his opinions so to say we have been maligning on this is really untrue ,this forum started by saying WW's comments were outrageous and it goes to show that Celtic had a more refined let me say intelligence about in those days not bad for a bunch of "tottie picking immigrants".RFC held itself back by having the Reformist attitude prevalent to Scotland "we are superior no one else counts God is on our side" The world had moved into the 20th century if that club had done the same it could have been a force in Europe for many years all the money it had and prestige all be it built on an intolerant tradition.You ask where I sourced this information
,well go to a library if in Glasgow go to the Mitchell archives is always a good starting point,search the records for the time span and you will find an article about this service and why it was put on to try and unite Catholic and protestant and show a sign of good faith because it wasn't just rangers fans or Protestants who were hurting after that disaster it was a city as they said.That is probably the easiest source that you could find you can even do it online if you like.
I think I have babbled enough pooh on here as of now and believe me I could go on butsadly I must get on with my life.

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written by Tam the Bam on 2006-10-27 13:20:29

Clifford Leonard Clark Hanley (October 28, 1922 - 1999) was a journalist, novelist, playwright and broadcaster from Glasgow in Scotland. Originally from Shettleston in the city's East End, he was educated at Eastbank Academy.

He also wrote a number of books, including Dancing in the Street, an account of his early life in Glasgow, The Taste of Too Much, a 'rite of passage' novel about a secondary schoolboy, often seen as semi auto-biographical, and The Scots.

During the 1960s and 1970s he published novels under the pen-name Henry Calvin. They were more successful in the US and Canada than in the UK.

He also wrote the words of Scotland's unofficial national anthem Scotland the Brave, and both wrote and recorded The Glasgow Underground Song - a humorous anecdote on the pre-modernisation era Glasgow Subway.

He wrote the script for 'Between the Lines', which was described by Mary Whitehouse, campaigner, as the filthiest programme she had seen on TV. (Plagiarised from Wikipedia.com)

This "Fenian" was apparently a non-Catholic,like many other Celtic supporters and there is nothing to suggest that Mr Hanley was in fact a supporter of either team. Just a proud Glaswegian.

Hail! Hail! (not a neutral observer)

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written by Glasgowdave on 2006-10-28 00:56:23

A facinating insight into a city in the grip of transformation.
What a pity, some of the beliefs expressed 32 years ago have not evolved.
As a proud Glaswegian, I'm trully saddened

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written by Bhoy62 on 2006-10-29 09:22:41

I`m a german Celtic supporter since more than 10 years now and every single factI heard, paper or book I read, movie or video I`ve seen in the last decade about the Old Firm makes me just happy to belong to the Bhoys. And nothing point it out that clear as the headlines in the scottish papers after the finals in Lisbon, Barcelone and Seville.
I saw the Rangers just onces live a couple of years ago in a CL-qualifier in a little slovenian town called Maribor, even there trouble all around. So not only "Shame in Spain"...I`ve never met football fans like the huns, who were that kind of unrelaxed and unsettled.

HAIL, HAIL

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written by St.Andrews76 on 2006-11-07 18:00:08

As someone born and raised in Glasgow, I am so glad that my parents had the sense to immigrate to Canada. You should listens to yourselves, your all as bad as each other. I'm truly ashamed of you all.

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written by mick m on 2006-11-09 16:02:24

well if ever you needed proof there it is , from the horses arse (sorry) mouth, waddle knew what they stood for and hoped it would never change. a bigot to the (very bitter) end.
ps lets all laugh at rangers.

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written by Neutral Observer on 2006-11-10 12:57:40

It is a shame to see the dark side of the Old Firm in the days where bigotry and hatred were celebrated rather than condemned . To be honest I found it rather disgusting. Willie Waddell's comments were unbelievable and to be honest, not entirely surprising. And the singing about the IRA 12 minutes in to the film shows that ALL of Glasgow, Green and Blue, haven't come far in the past 30 years.

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written by francis Hackett on 2006-11-11 02:24:07

What a great documentary it brought back memories, there is no greater rivalry in sport. Pity about the two sided bigotry.

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written by francis hoy donnelly(ex greeno on 2006-11-16 02:13:36

Great film,eh vijoe nat,thank god I live in Canada,and don't see too many Orange Marches,as a matter of fact,the only time I see these dinosaurs of disgust is when I go to the Highland Games in Fergus,Cambridge, or Sarnia Ontario,were they all seem to think that to celebrate their Scottish ancestory they have to be seen in these disgusting Rangers and bright Orange strips with pictures of the present reigning monarch and some old geezer on a white horse crossing a river in a foreign land that doesn't even belong to him and his hunnish hordes.Rangers and their fans for the most part are a disgraceful and disgusting affront to Scottish Football and to all of Scottish society in general,UEFA have found you out, courtesy of your actions in the Madrigal and at the Sesspool known as Ibrox Park,now the majority of clubs in the Scottish Premiere League have embarked on a Masonic,Orange,Presbyterian, conspiracy with the aid of the police,the P.Fs.office, all to cover up the shame of the once mighty blues,Big clubs indeed, there is only one big club in Scotland AND THEY DON'T PLAY FOOTBALL,but they are in most towns and villages throughout Scotland and indeed Britain in general,it looks as though the great Willie got his wish after all because nothing has in bonnie bag pipe land,bon voyage land of my forebears.

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written by shaunam1 on 2006-12-01 22:06:05

absolutely fantastic documentary - this was about the time i stopped attending football matches and some of the commentary from the video is the reason why i did - neither side was particularly sympathetic to female supporters - but so glad things have changed somewhat since then (at Parkhead anyway cant comment on the other side)

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written by danny murray connecticut usa on 2006-12-03 18:08:27

very good points by cliff hanley especially about the fact that a fenian is nothing to do with being a roman catholic & that the battle of the boyne has nothing to do with religion surely david murray could educate people who attend games @ ibrox on these points????

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written by brian sweeney on 2006-12-07 18:39:22

very good some old faces turned up

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written by Paul Anthony Cassidy on 2006-12-08 00:49:03

"written by St.Andrews76 on 2006-11-07 18:00:08

As someone born and raised in Glasgow, I am so glad that my parents had the sense to immigrate to Canada. You should listens to yourselves, your all as bad as each other. I'm truly ashamed of you all. "

Gee us peace. Your concept of being Scottish no doubt involves caber tossing, bag pipes, ginger cheeck hair, tartan skirts, a wee drum and highlander crisps.
The reality is that none of that exists and that Scotland is a small country with the exact same problems within society that EVERY country has. Get of your high horse and maybe try spending some time here in the modern day before spewing out that pretentious pish.

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written by Charlie Nobhoy on 2006-12-13 16:35:07

Interesting stuff despite, in my opinion the bias towards septic. Great to see the old stadiums (God how horrid was porkheid even so short time ago as 1974) and the memories of guys pissing down legs and the morons (from both sides) thinking the could throw a bottle 400 yards and only skelping their own.
Sanitised now but is it for the better... who knows
As for Hanley, he is entitled to his opinion but what a bitter wee shite he was

RTID

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written by randy on 2006-12-13 19:02:27

this site is in my opinion one of the most vile sites i have ever seen

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written by randy on 2006-12-13 19:11:04

on all comments made in this site i think you all could do with a dose of education

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written by LucaBrasi on 2007-01-10 19:25:19

Willie Waddell reminds me of the Scotch n Wry sketch when Rikki Fulton is the Rangers manager.Old bigot wife basher.
Good video again guys.

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written by ann.marchetti on 2007-02-07 13:12:06

I got the website name etc from an old school friend in Glasgow, who recommended that I watch the video. So I registered with the site so that I could see it. Thank you for putting it on - I never knew such a film existed, having lived away from Scotland since Celtic won the European Cup in 1967.
Thanks to Channel 67, we see most of the Celtic games on the internet. Once a Celtic supporter, always a Celtic supporter. Thanks a lot for the memories.

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written by max on 2009-01-16 18:12:20

"Oh! the corporation buses are green white and gold, green white and gold, green white and gold. Oh! the corporation buses are...............................

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written by max on 2009-02-07 13:37:26

Regarding this sectarian issue (as I believe this docu was about), I was born in 1960 and grew up as a wee boy who idolised Wee Jinky, I have very little knowledge of any of the Lisbon Lions religions, it was only in the last few years that someone mentioned Big Tommy was a Protestant, and I'm at the mo reading Berties book, "A Bhoy called Bertie" and discovered that he's from a mixed marraige. I didn't know because I don't want to know and quite frankly consider it none of my business.

Looking at todays squad, exept for one or two obvious exeptions, I'm in blissful ignorance as to most of the squads religious persuasions.
My hero now that I'm 'all growed up' would be Henke Larsson, and after 7 years at Celtic and following his career since, wishing him every success, I have no inclination whatsoever what religion, if any, he follows, and have no interest in finding out.
I don't think I'm in anyway unique within the Celtic family, but considering the huns are a team I could never have played for because of my religion, I think I would be perfectly unique at the hunnery!